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Eä Tolkien Society Meeting Notes for November 2017

by Hawke published Nov 18, 2017 11:58 PM, last modified Nov 18, 2017 11:58 PM
Here are the meeting notes from the Ea Tolkien Society's monthly September meeting, thanks to Brian!

1. BH read Notes from October
2. Attended: Hawke, Corey, Wes, Stephanie, Zach, Gene, Brian
3. Discussion: Science Fiction vs. Fantasy. Division hard or soft?
4. Zach: Barsoom, Warlord of Mars. Edgar Rice Burroughs. SciFi has been
around a long time.
5.To be continued next month. More research is needed on the history of the
two genres and their symbiosis.
6. More discussion on October notes... Woses/Druedain.
7. Obscure Tolkien movies/media. See column on
8. Note that this also shows us the parallel narrative of Tolkien's estate
& authorized/unauthorized adaptations & copyright use/abuse.
9. Corey: Latest news about lawsuit Tolkien Estate vs. Warner Bros. Settled
in summer. Early November agreement for an Amazon series based on the time
between Hobbit & Lord of the Rings.  https://www.tolkiensociety.
10. Various talk about possibilities of what this entails.
11. How do spin-offs affect the film canon: Star Trek example.
12. Is there enough material/unifying theme to make it worthwhile, even if
we know the end ahead of time?
13. Partial answer: Cubicle 7 TOR's exploration of the 60 years.
14. Long discussion of the pros/cons.
15. Biopics of Tolkien... UK "Tolkien" and USA "Middle Earth". Links here: and
16. The even bigger news item: Christopher Tolkien resigned as head of the
Tolkien Estate.
17. Hawke: reviewed difference between Tolkien Estate and Tolkien
Enterprises/Saul Zaentz  (now called Middle Earth Enterprises).
18. Brian read article on CRT's retirement:
We salute CRT's work and careful guardianship, and his mapmaking legacy.
19. Comments on local SPARK community program and Tolkien roleplaying.
20. Derivative works are not necessarily poor.
21. A reminder of Other Minds Magazine.
22. Hawke: update on idea of organizing as a non-profit. Patreon? Wesley
referred to Mythgard Institute & Mythmoot regional moots.
23. Corey read Letters of Tolkien 145.
24. Discussion. What would people like at meetings? Gene's interests:
music, mythology. Zach reads young adult fantasy.
25. Next month: Music of Middle-Earth?
26. Next meeting Dec. 16, 1-3 pm.

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